Craig Morris
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Post by Craig Morris on Mar 29, 2016 13:51:37 GMT
At Belle Vue we have 4/5 trainers who could be calling time in the next 12/24 months here's hoping they can hand down there contracts at the ZOO to there younger family members?
Because if that does not happen I can't see where any future trainers are going to come from..
It's a worry but of course not for the GRA because they seem to think trainers are still out there BUT ARE THEY ? Trouble is Jimmy if you was working for a trainer and had seen them working every hour god sends just to get by and survive as many trainers are would it appeal to you if you were given the chance to take it over ?
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Post by BVADMIN on Mar 29, 2016 13:57:47 GMT
I'm to old Craig if you read the Racing Post article it's all about getting new young blood into our sport.
It's the future of greyhound racing that concerns me because more and more tracks are going to close and that's a fact but Mr Donaldson is spot on regards getting young people involved now before it's to late.
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Post by BVADMIN on Mar 29, 2016 14:51:26 GMT
It is a good article but the underlying feeling is that these young people are pursuing a passion and are having to cast aside the nonsensical finances of it all. In there you have someone balancing a full time job with training, you have someone delighted to have a break even year, and you have someone with a contract that will soon end. The finances of it all are just crazy. I dont have answers except that maybe the TV companies and bookmakers get the product too cheaply. No owner shoukd have a bill if his dog runs four times a month. Trainers should not be forced to run at a loss, relying on the fact that premises are paid for or inherited. Tracks should mot retain BAGS money when those supplying the product are shelling out. Our game needs hungry trainers...but what exactly do they need to be hungry for? A career without progression or reward? TOP CLASS POSTING 'Ian Parry'
In my opinion the major fault behind this problem is down to the owners/promoters of the greyhound tracks.
These people employ there contracted trainers and therefore should be paying them a living wage.
From what a lot of trainers tell me they are finding times hard and I for one put a lot of blame down to the likes of the GRA [IN OUR CASE AT THE ZOO] for not paying there trainers the going rate these days.
A trainer can't survive purely on owners paying kennel bills the sums don't add up as we all know.
I blame the tracks owners/promoters for allowing the greyhound game to have fallen into the state is clearly is today ON IT'S KNEES..
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Post by BVADMIN on Mar 29, 2016 14:56:15 GMT
i think the powers in charge will allow smaller trainers in time.but would they be allowed onto bags etc,because there will be a perceived outlook of jobs being done.not now and again but again and again. it seems to work in Australia,but the rewards are massive.and they won't even pay the enhanced payment for bags rates here. The stadium promoters want the cake, halfpenny and anything else that can be got.SO now they are reaping the rewards of the pillaging done previously. only the older trainers will put up with the conditions and pay of previous years.trainers packing in breeders packing in by the dozen.that is the reason of the apathy of the state the industry is now in.YOU SOW WHAT YOU REAP[. SPOT ON 'benny'
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Post by BVADMIN on Mar 29, 2016 14:58:30 GMT
People at the top of the game are creaming the money off and putting nowt back.Trainers and owners are the life of the game but nowt filters back to them it's no wonder folk are turning there backs on the game when people ask me about buying a dog I tell them you will need deep pockets.Its a great sport but it's a dying one AGREE WITH THAT ONE 'johnlamb41'
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 17:16:37 GMT
I think greyhound racing is killing itself to be honest. I had my first greyhound at the age of 14 a little blk bitch that raced on blackpool as flo jo with my dad and ended up racing at numerous flapping tracks upto the recentish closure of west Houghton. Over the years I learnt a numbers of things training methods and how to maintain a greyhound to a high standard. With the closure of flapping I have had to give up training and can only carry on as a owner. Reason why I couldn't go license because one I wouldn't have enough money to rent or buy kennels with no initial income. Then initial outlay for dogs to fulfil a contract as I would have to buy my own to prove till I did/do have the ability. Plus outlay for outlay for suitable transportation for greyhounds. All these have made a sport I would of loved to of done full time beyond my reach and only a change in times and realising how hard it is to start up it will only die as fast as flapping has over the years. Now aged 34 not so young but these are my reasons for what I'd of tried years ago.
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Post by johncox on Mar 29, 2016 18:33:03 GMT
All I can see in the future is less tracks, each tack owning a range of kennels and leasing them to trainers contracted to their tracks, maybe gbgb rules will have to be altered where as multiple trainers dogs could be transported along with kennel hands representing different trainers. In other words a bit of commonsense to cut down the cost to trainers..maybe some will say this is what use to happen at bv with them owning their own kennels, this is the only way i can see of new blood getting into the game.
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Post by BVADMIN on Mar 30, 2016 8:06:13 GMT
I think greyhound racing is killing itself to be honest. I had my first greyhound at the age of 14 a little blk bitch that raced on blackpool as flo jo with my dad and ended up racing at numerous flapping tracks upto the recentish closure of west Houghton. Over the years I learnt a numbers of things training methods and how to maintain a greyhound to a high standard. With the closure of flapping I have had to give up training and can only carry on as a owner. Reason why I couldn't go license because one I wouldn't have enough money to rent or buy kennels with no initial income. Then initial outlay for dogs to fulfil a contract as I would have to buy my own to prove till I did/do have the ability. Plus outlay for outlay for suitable transportation for greyhounds. All these have made a sport I would of loved to of done full time beyond my reach and only a change in times and realising how hard it is to start up it will only die as fast as flapping has over the years. Now aged 34 not so young but these are my reasons for what I'd of tried years ago. Nice posting 'spudders'
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Post by BVADMIN on Mar 30, 2016 8:08:35 GMT
All I can see in the future is less tracks, each tack owning a range of kennels and leasing them to trainers contracted to their tracks, maybe gbgb rules will have to be altered where as multiple trainers dogs could be transported along with kennel hands representing different trainers. In other words a bit of commonsense to cut down the cost to trainers..maybe some will say this is what use to happen at bv with them owning their own kennels, this is the only way i can see of new blood getting into the game. To go back in time could be the way forward 'JC'
I remember the days when there were trainers based at the track mind you in those days the GRA did buy greyhounds to race at the ZOO... HAPPY DAYS
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