Nani's sending off

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Should Nani have been sent off? Roy Keane says yes and he's ex Utd. Gary Neville & Lou Macari say no. I can see both sides of the arguement so i'm undecided. What does everybody else think?

[CHESTER]

Mar 6, 2013 9:54:42 GMT @henry said:

Should Nani have been sent off? Roy Keane says yes and he's ex Utd. Gary Neville & Lou Macari say no. I can see both sides of the arguement so i'm undecided. What does everybody else think?

Henry - Keane may be ex United but I am not sure he is impartial as doesn't he have issues with Ferguson. I'm a City fan but must say I thought the decision harsh as there was absolutely no question of intent and I didn't see it as reckless either. CHESTER

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Utter disgrace from the referee! Changed the game completely! Turkish plonker!

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Mar 6, 2013 10:21:55 GMT CHESTER said:

Mar 6, 2013 9:54:42 GMT @henry said:

Should Nani have been sent off? Roy Keane says yes and he's ex Utd. Gary Neville & Lou Macari say no. I can see both sides of the arguement so i'm undecided. What does everybody else think?

Henry - Keane may be ex United but I am not sure he is impartial as doesn't he have issues with Ferguson. I'm a City fan but must say I thought the decision harsh as there was absolutely no question of intent and I didn't see it as reckless either. CHESTER

Chester, listening to them discuss it afterwards i thought it was said that intent wasnt a factor in whether he was sent off or not. I think the rule says something about being dangerous play and causing possible harm to an opponent. Certainly studs up into the chest of an opponent could cause them harm. Maybe somebody knows the rules better than me. Nani was in a no win situation it seems. Going for the ball got him sent off. However he wouldnt have been doing his job if he'd have pulled out of the challenge, and he would have got slated by his manager, teammates and fans for bottling it. The ref has probably applied the rules too literally, thinking of the feedback he'd have got from the assessor and his bosses!

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The referee made his decision based on what he saw from the angle he saw it from and applying the laws of the game, which now appear to have become anti tackling. We all have to accept it.

I don't recall this level of outrage when Kompany was sent off in the FA Cup last year and when Shelvey was sent off at Anfield this season. Both seemed to me very very harsh decisions. The opponent in both those games was Manchester United. I don't recall Sir Alex Ferguson being distraught on behalf of the Manchester City and Liverpool managers at the time.

It wasn't pleasant to see the ingracious manner in which Manchester United accepted their defeat, but lets face it, isn't this something we have come to expect, particularly from the manager.

On a more positive side, I thought that up to the sending off Manchester United played well with Welbeck being the best player on the field. Giggs I also thought played very well which was fitting in view of the overall occasion. 

[CHESTER]

Mar 6, 2013 10:37:58 GMT @henry said:

Chester, listening to them discuss it afterwards i thought it was said that intent wasnt a factor in whether he was sent off or not. I think the rule says something about being dangerous play and causing possible harm to an opponent. Certainly studs up into the chest of an opponent could cause them harm. Maybe somebody knows the rules better than me. Nani was in a no win situation it seems. Going for the ball got him sent off. However he wouldnt have been doing his job if he'd have pulled out of the challenge, and he would have got slated by his manager, teammates and fans for bottling it. The ref has probably applied the rules too literally, thinking of the feedback he'd have got from the assessor and his bosses!

Henry - I don't think Nani knew or had reason to know that a player was so close and if it was a sending off regardless then it seems to me the effect of the Rule is that if you raise your foot above waist height you get sent off which makes for a lot of Red Cards

As Precious suggests Ref's make many crucial decisions and get some wrong - it happens week in and week although according to the stats to United less than most. You have to respect Ferguson's success but certainly not his reaction but trying to be objective I thought Nani and United were unlucky with this decision but perhaps also lucky if Ferdinand doesn't get disciplined for his post match conduct.

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Carlton Cole and Darron Gibson were both sent off for similiar incidents earler this season.However, both dismissals were rescinded on appeal.I thought the sending off was harsh,but acknowledge that Nani could have seriously injured Arbeloa.Ferguson can't really complain too much, as he insisted a few weeks ago that Van Persie 'could have been killed'by a QPR player kicking the ball at his head! Surely he wouldn't want a different interpretation of the rules regarding players safety just to benefit his own side, would he?
What hasn't been discussed enough is Utd's abject failure to react to the different circumstances.Not every team would capitulate in 14 minutes just because they had 10 men.Mourinho immediately brought on Modric who transformed the game.Sir Alex demmonstrated tactical ineptitude by not responding until 2-1 down.I think his judgement was clouded by his 'anger management' issues, so much so, that he couldn't be trusted too speak publicly after the game.The lack of class at the club was further reinforced by Rio Ferdinand's deplorable conduct toward the referee at the end of the game.United may have been a little unfortunate on the night, but like the vast majority of non Utd fans, I'm delighted they are out, principally because of the ungracious and churlish way in which the manager conducts himself when he doesn't get everything his own way.

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John, i take it then that you are not a fan of United?

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are people forgetting what happened in the world cup final holland v spain, de jong had his foot up just as high into alonso and only got a yellow card and that was off the so called best english ref howard webb, im a city fan but dont think he should off been sent off his eyes where on the ball all the time

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are people forgetting what happened in the world cup final holland v spain, de jong had his foot up just as high into alonso and only got a yellow card and that was off the so called best english ref howard webb, im a city fan but dont think he should off been sent off his eyes where on the ball all the time