June Market Movers

[precious]

Jun 17, 2013 17:14:43 GMT P TAYLOR said:

Massive difference. And let's b onset what prices do u get on Fridays and Saturdays when u cum down before first race and place your bets for the nite, that again is just selfish, do u think that cud affect the opening show?

Explain what the massive difference is because the effect is certainly the same as far as I can see.

Since I started doing the market mover reports I have had an arrangement whereby I place my bets before racing which allows me to watch the market and do the market mover reports. Its as simple as that!

I must say that I am heartened by your concern about this matter, paul. What I propose to you is that in future you submit a sister thread to market movers, called 'market movers of concern' in which you highlight market moves of concern to you. You are of close much closer to the betting action than I am and can see who backs what, by how much, whether bets are declined or cut by the bookmakers. Given your previous comment on a market movers thread belittling my knowledge I wouldn't feel qualified to assess such moves but you surely would. The sort of thing I had in mind would be, for example, where the owner of Dog A, who has a decent chance according to the opening show, backs Dog B for a big amount and that dog wins or runs very well whilst Dog A doesn't. That sort of thing.

What do you say, Paul?

Actually, Benny is not correct in suggesting that I back dogs for a living. I'm not that dumb and am in the fortunate position where backing dogs is just a hobby. However, I fully recognize that there are individuals, or cliques of individuals, who do rely on gambling for their living. Many of these individuals want things all their own way. They require a standard of behaviour from others which on some occasions that are not prepared to adhere to themselves.

All this reminds me of the saying 'the pot calling the kettle black'.

[P TAYLOR]

It's about apinnions precious sum times u have to bet which u head not with your heart.

[P TAYLOR]

I hope u take early prices again tomorrow ha ha. Get my snitch to tell me which ones.?

[precious]

Jun 18, 2013 15:59:09 GMT P TAYLOR said:

It's about apinnions precious sum times u have to bet which u head not with your heart.

Can I assume that, due to reasons which are no concern of mine, you are not interested in my proposal? 

[precious]

Jun 18, 2013 16:02:35 GMT P TAYLOR said:

I hope u take early prices again tomorrow ha ha. Get my snitch to tell me which ones.?

Well you called him a snitch not me.

As I said earlier I do not often take the first price to be put up at BAGS and only do so if I think that price will not be the opening show sent from the track. This matter has been blown out of all proportion. Didn't the dog concerned get beat? 

I can't see your response explaining what the massive difference is between my taking an opening price at the BAGS and someone taking the opening price during evening meetings. Can I assume that you have accepted my point of view on this matter and that you withdraw your statement, Paul?

I have to say what a disappointment this attack on me has been.  I have never mentioned in a market mover report who has taken an opening price as soon as it has gone up. Incidentally, I did notice that the opening show for Round Woman lasted about two second before it was removed at the weekend and I also saw who backed the bitch . Similarly I have never commented on certain individuals backing certain dogs under what I considered, and some bookmakers considered, were 'questionable circumstances'. Such revelations would be illuminating indeed!  Precious is a stand up guy who does not snitch on these matters . He merely, from time to time, finds ways of describing his satisfaction or occasionally dissatisfaction with the manner in which some dogs have performed.

However, if this sort of personal attack on me continues then I will have to reconsider this policy. Why should I be held accountable for what I do when others are not?

[precious]

Jun 18, 2013 10:57:19 GMT Shadrack said:

Precious, what you doing commenting on this website? You should be studying Wednesdays card to see what damage you can do with the prices this week.

Stokey, my comments are made with the intention of encouraging valued members such as yourself to make contributions to the Forum.

[precious]

Today, a lovely day for BAGS racing. As usual Precious is on point watching the market whilst the maad-arsed snitch is loitering at the back with the knife ready. Pathetic. Fabulous Freda from Fleetwood has a four timer.

Race 1 Grade A6 Time 28.67
Support for Richly Deserved, 3s to 11/4, who was handy to the stripes at the bend and slipped into the lead when said dog moved off wide at the second bend. Deserved led to the run in and finished second.

Race 4 Grade A7 Time 29.03
Tyrur Neymar, 3s to 5/2, missed the break in relation to most of his rivals but still led near the bend to off the fourth finishing second.

Race Grade A4 Time 27.96
Sugar Loaf was backed from 6s to 5s by those who thought she could come through the field. They were completely mistaken! She trapped very fast and made all recording an eye watering 27.96.  Precious Gem, 4s to 7/2, made a poor start, turned in third and finished third after being held up at bend three. Kappie, 3s to 11/4, trapped fairly well but was touched slightly at the start. She didn't pick her feet up to the bend and after a slight jostle there turned in fourth place before checking wide between bends three and four. She finished last.

Race 7 Grade A1 Time 27.98
Rathmore Star, 4s to 3s, didn't quite have the early of some of these and turned in fourth place following a touch at the bend. He stayed on well for third place.

Race 9 Grade A3 Time 28.27
Office money for the hit and miss character at traps Adamant Achilles, 9/4 to 7/4. Today was a miss day and he suffered the consequences at the first, second and third bends and never got going at all. He finished last.

Race 13 Grade A5 Time 28.55
Tyrur Leyden, 7/2 to 5/2, missed the break and met a couple of dogs quicker to the bend where he was forced to check. His chance had already gone when he was crowded at the second bend. He finished last.

[precious]

Tonight, fast going at times with the bowser going round before Race 7.

Race 1 Grade A8 Time 29.06
Jakes Jewel, backed at 11/8, made a slow start and got the BIG E at the first. He finished last.

Race 2 Grade A8 Time 28.92
Hard Style, 10s to 6s, trapped best and made all as some of her more dangerous rivals found trouble. Kersal Monet, evens to 4/5, started very poorly and was forced to check badly at the bend when trying to recover. She was last at the second and made up a lot of ground to finish an impressively close second. Bubblesndiamonds, whose name fits in nicely with his owner's rakish image , was backed from 3s to 5/2 and after turning in fourth place was making good progress when crowded at the third bend. She finished fourth.

Race 5 Grade A7 Time 28.75
Rocks Pride, 2s to 7/4, started slowly and was forced to check at the third bend when going well. He finished third. Talented Mary, 7s to 5s, missed the break, turned in fourth place and stayed there to the line.

Race 6 Grade A6 Time 28.09
Tick Tock Tony, 10/11 to 4/5, looked a bit short before the race but, given the impressive nature of his win, the odds were great value. He surged to the front on the run up. Colla Head, 4s to 3s, sadly finished lame.

Race 7 Grade A5 Time 28.54
Stack Rock, 9/2 to 9/4, appeared to ease off the gas close to the bend and only turned in fifth place. He did plenty of running from halfway and finished second.

Race 8 Grade A4 Time 28.47
The chips fell just right for the in form That's a Fact, 5/4 to evens, who, despite a slow start, turned fourth. He progressed into second place and produced his hallmark strong finish to lead on the run from Bower Osprey, 5s to 9/2, who led for most of the way following a long absence. Aero Venetian, 11/4 to 5/2, finished a creditable third following a slow start. He only turned in fourth place but kept on well.

Race 9 Grade A1 Time 27.91
Once again Datona Duke, 3s to 11/4, produced stunning early to lead the bend but veered off wide at the second losing ground. Once he re-gained his equilibrium he showed pace to challenge at the third but was crowded there and finished fourth. Slippery Jimmy, 11/4 to 7/4, missed the break and crowding at the bend to turn fourth. He made progress to the third bend where he had to run round the outside of two rivals before staying on well for second place.

Race 10 Grade A2 Time 28.02
No re-run of the video for this race probably because of the x certificate scene at the bend where many of the field had been in close proximity. The quick starting Little Babe, 2s to 6/4, was handy at the bend and led after missing most of the trouble. Her time was good though. Karma Effect, 3s to 9/4, turned in second after suffering at the bend and Leggy Tiger, 4s to 7/2 finished a well beaten fourth after being almost on the floor.

Race 11 Grade S1 Time 35.44
Round Woman, 7/4 to 11/10, trapped fast and made all. Swift Crown, 5s to 4s, turned in second place and held that position until the fifth bend where he was forced to check by the improving Jack Relax, backed at 3s. Crown finished third and Relax, who stayed on well after turning third following a missed break, ran well to finish second.

Race 12 Grade A3 Time 28.42
Turnmoss Smokey, backed at 5s, completed a four timer here. He trapped well and soon took a clear lead but his owners were peddling furiously near the line as a couple of rivals closed. Parsons Beauty, 5/2 to 9/4, finished fifth following a first bend crowd and an ease at the third bend. Starmount Linea, backed at 9/4, finished last following a first bend crowd and a second bend check.

[precious]

Tonight, fastish going. The bowser went round before Race 7. Fantastic Freda from Fleetwood has a three timer.

Race 2 Grade A9 Time 29.24
Knockfinisk Fred, 11/8 to 11/10, didn't show much to the bend and a crowd there did his chance no good. He finished a never showed fifth.

Race 3 Grade A8 Time 29.20
Samba Luna, 7/2 to 6/4, enjoyed a solo at the bend and turned in second place. She led on the run in. Following a slow start Darver Lily, 5/2 to 2s, arrived at the bend alongside the quick starting black sheet and took a crowd at the first and second bend. Relegated to fifth by the second she kept on well to finish third.

Race 4 Grade A6 Time 28.30
Once the winner got out very well for him the race was effectively over. Upton Falcon, backed at 5/2, started slowly, turned fourth and finished third. Jacks Economy, 4s to 3s, trapped well, turned in third place and was finished off by crowding at the third. He finished last.

Race 5 Grade S3 Time 35.94
Glin Lark, 4s to 3s, held third place until she was crowded at the third bend and again slightly at the fourth from which point she made no progress and finished fifth.

Race 6 Grade A7 Time 28.68
In a race with little early pace in it Dacent Amy, 9/2 to 4s, was able to lead the bend and hold off the staying on Grandads Mustard, 2s to 7/4, who turned in second place following a missed break. Goosey Lucy, 4s to 7/4, was crowded on the run up and again at the first bend before finishing a disappointing last.

Race 7 Grade A4 Time 28.76
Slick Saigon, 7/2 to 3s, started slowly and hit the rail at the first bend before being badly crowded. She finished a well beaten fifth. Tudor Smile, 7/2 to 11/4, took her time to the bend and was forced very wide at the bend in the melee. She stopped at the fourth bend.

Race 10 Grade A2 Time 28.25
Woodsgift Royal, 5s to 3s, was back in last place following a slow start with plenty to do. He ran on well to finish a close third. Efceeunited, 4s to 7/2, didn't show last time's sparkle and finished fifth after turning fourth..

Race 11 Grade A1 Time 28.37
A collision at the first bend ruined the race as a spectacle but Moyar Rambler, 3s to 5/2, who missed the break, was able to take the lead at the second following the crowd at the first. He led to off the last bend and finished second. Louis the First, 9/4 to 2s, trapped best but suffered in the trouble and finished a well beaten third. Derrylough Socks, 10s to 8s, made a slow start and suffered severe crowding between bends one and two. He finished last.

Race 12 Grade A3 Time 27.80
The gloss was taken off the overdue win by Rusheen Mikey, 11/8 to 5/4, because of the marked superiority he appeared to have in class and time over these opponents. However, given his often slow starting, strong finishing type of approach one can never take anything for granted with him.  Following a slow start, he avoided contact at the bend and turned in fourth place before unleashing a stunning turn of pace to the third which took him into the lead and he won going away. If tried over the 590 trip he'll take high order.
Catunda Lisa, 7s to 6s, was never a contender and finish fourth following a missed break and jostling on the run up.

[P TAYLOR]

What sort of clock do u think he wud do precious ?